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« Reply #122 on: July 25, 2020, 04:44:40 pm »
What does it mean that love covers a multitude of sins?


Question: "What does it mean that love covers a multitude of sins?"


Answer: First Peter 4:8 says, “Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.” Proverbs 10:12 says, “Hatred stirs up conflict, but love covers over all wrongs.” In what way does love cover sin?


To “cover” sin is to forgive it, and forgiveness is associated with love. The best example of a love that covers sin is Jesus’ sacrificial death on our behalf. Jesus’ prayer from the cross, “Father, forgive them,” says it all (Luke 23:34). Jesus’ bearing of our iniquities was an undeniable act of love (Romans 5:8; 1 John 4:10). In fact, Jesus did more than just cover our sin; He did away with it completely (Hebrews 10:12–14).


In 1 Peter 4:8 the apostle is talking about interpersonal relationships. As believers we reflect the love of God by forgiving others. Jesus told His disciples, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another” (John 13:34–35). First Corinthians 13 tells us that love “keeps no record of wrongs” (verse 5). When we love each other, we are willing to forgive each other. Love covers sin in that it is willing to forgive.


Love also covers over a multitude of sins in that it does not gossip about sin. Rather than share the offenses of our brothers and sisters in Christ with anyone who will listen, we exercise discretion and restraint. Matthew 18:15–17 instructs us on the appropriate way to confront those who sin. James 5:19–20 says, “My brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back, remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins.” It is loving to speak truth to others regarding sin. First Corinthians 13:6 tells us that “love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.”


Another thing love does is protect (1 Corinthians 13:7). Love does not cover over a multitude of sin by sweeping matters under the rug. Some have appealed to the forgiving nature of love in their attempt to hide indiscretion. For example, rather than report child abuse, a church might cover it up. This is not what true love does. Love protects by helping both the victim and the offender, and it also strives to prevent further offenses.


Love covering sin also does not mean we disregard our own emotions or ignore our personal boundaries. We cannot “cover” sin by denying that it hurt us. We cover sin by acknowledging it and then extending the forgiveness God has given us to others.


“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres” (1 Corinthians 13:4–7). Another way that love covers over a multitude of sins is choosing not to take offense at everything. Some sins against us are not worth confronting. Personal slights, snide or ignorant remarks, and minor annoyances can be easily forgiven for the sake of love. Proverbs 19:11 says, “A person’s wisdom yields patience; it is to one’s glory to overlook an offense.” If we are patient, not envious or self-seeking, we are much less likely to even take offense. Acting in love means we put others before ourselves. Love can cover a multitude of sin in that, when we act in true love, we are prone to overlook minor offenses, tolerate the provocations, and forgive the sin.

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« Reply #123 on: July 25, 2020, 05:02:20 pm »
How can a loving God send someone to hell?


Question: "How can a loving God send someone to hell?"


Answer: In order to address the question of a loving God sending someone to hell, we need to define a few terms and correct a few wrong assumptions. Our definitions must be biblical, and our assumptions must be correct.


We must first define the term loving God. This phrase assumes some things about God, and answering the question at hand according to flawed assumptions leads to wrong conclusions. Our culture defines a “loving God” as a completely non-confrontational being who tolerates anything we want to do. But that is not a biblical definition. First John 4:16 says that God is love. That means that He does not possess love as we do; He is the very definition of love and therefore cannot do anything that is unloving. The law of non-contradiction states that something cannot be both true and untrue at the same time. So, if God IS love, then He cannot be at the same time unloving.


So the first fallacy present in the question “how can a loving God send someone to hell?” is the idea that allowing people to go to hell is an unloving act on God’s part. If we humans decide that God is somehow wrong to allow unrepentant sinners to pay their deserved penalty, then we have declared that we are more loving than God is. We have set ourselves up as God’s judge and jury and in doing so have closed the door to deeper understanding. Therefore, the first step in answering this question is to agree with Scripture that God IS love; therefore, everything He does is an expression of that perfect love.


The second fallacy presented by the question “how can a loving God send someone to hell?” concerns the word send, which denotes an action only on the part of the sender. If a man sends a letter, sends a request, or sends a gift, all action was done by that man. No action was taken on the part of the letter, request, or gift. However, this understanding of the word send cannot be applied to the question at hand because God has given human beings freedom to participate in their life choices and eternal destinations (John 3:16–18). The way this question is worded implies that, if anyone goes to hell, it is the result of God’s unilateral action, and the person being sent to hell is a passive victim. Such an idea completely disregards the personal responsibility God has entrusted to each of us.


“How can a loving God send someone to hell?” The entire question is wrong. A better wording is “If God is love, then why do some people go to hell?” Romans 1:18–20 lays the foundation for the answer: “The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse” (emphasis added).


There are several key points in this passage that give us glimpses into the heart of God. First is the fact that people actively “suppress the truth.” People have been given enough truth to know and surrender to God, but they refuse it. Self-will wants to deny God’s right to tell us what to do. So, with the truth in front of them, many people turn away and refuse to see it. Atheist Thomas Nagel has said, “It isn’t just that I don’t believe in God and, naturally, hope that I’m right in my belief. It’s that I hope there is no God! I don’t want there to be a God; I don’t want the universe to be like that.”


Second, Romans 1 states that God has “made [God’s nature] plain to them.” In other words, God has taken the initiative to make His truth known to everyone. History has proved this since time began, as every people group has sought some understanding of a Creator to whom they owe allegiance. Such knowledge is an integral part of what it means to be created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). Romans 1:20 then says that “people are without excuse.” And to whom would they give such an excuse? The very One who says He has made Himself known to them, if they would only humble themselves and accept such revelations. God judges each of us according to the truth He has given us, and Romans 1 states that we each have enough truth to turn toward rather than away from Him.


When answering the question “how can a loving God send someone to hell?” another facet of God’s nature comes into play. God is not only love, but He is perfect justice as well. Justice requires adequate payment for crimes committed. The only just punishment for high treason against our perfect Creator is eternal separation from Him. That separation means the absence of goodness, light, relationship, and joy, which are all facets of God’s nature. To excuse our sin would require God to be less than just, and to allow sin-tainted humans into His perfect heaven would render that place less than perfect. That’s why only the perfect Son of God could go to the cross in our place. Only His perfect blood was an acceptable payment for the debt we each owe God (Colossians 2:14). When we refuse Jesus as our substitute, we must pay the price ourselves (Romans 6:23).


God gave us the freedom to choose how we respond to Him. If He forced us to love Him, we would be robots. To give us no option but obedience would be a violation of our free will. Love is only love when it is voluntary. We cannot love God unless we have the option of not loving Him. Because God honors our autonomy, He will never force surrender or loyalty. However, there are consequences for either choice. C. S. Lewis summarizes this truth in his classic work, The Great Divorce: “There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done.’ All that are in Hell, choose it.”   :1lol:

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« Reply #124 on: July 25, 2020, 05:04:22 pm »
Why does God send people to hell?


Question: "Why does God send people to hell?"


Answer: The Bible says that God created hell for Satan and the wicked angels who rebelled against Him, but there are people in hell also (Matthew 25:41). Both angelic beings and human beings are in hell for the same reason, sin (Romans 6:23).


Because God is completely righteous and morally perfect (Psalm 18:30), He always does what is right—there is no “darkness” in God, not the smallest speck of imperfection (1 John 1:5). God Himself is the standard for what is right, good, and moral. If it were not for God being the standard of moral perfection, created beings would have nothing to measure themselves against. In other words, if God is perfectly righteous, then anything that falls short of said perfection is sinful, and every human being who has ever lived, since Adam’s fall from grace, has committed sin (Romans 3:23). Because Adam sinned, the entire human race now has a sinful nature (Romans 5:12). But people do not go to hell because of Adam’s sin; they go to hell because of their own sin, which they freely choose (James 1:13–16).


Since God is eternal, immutable, and infinite, and all sins are fundamentally against God, God has decreed the just punishment for sin must also be eternal (Matthew 25:46). There is another aspect to consider, which is that God also created people to live eternally. So when someone commits a sin against another person, the offended person has also been eternally wronged.


God, therefore, has deemed all who commit sin will go to hell because they have failed to meet His righteous standard; they have broken His Law of moral perfection. If God did not send people to hell for breaking His laws, it could be said that God is not just (Psalm 7:11). A good analogy is a court of law with a judge and a lawbreaker. A just judge will always convict the person who has been found guilty. If that judge did not pursue justice for the crime, he would not be a just judge (Deuteronomy 32:4).


However, the good news is that God is also merciful. In His rich mercy, He made a way for sinners to avoid the punishment of hell by trusting in the atoning work of His Son, Jesus Christ (Romans 5:9). For Christians, the penalty of sin has been removed and placed upon Christ on the cross (1 Peter 2:24). Because of the sacrifice of Christ, God is still just—the sin is punished—yet He is also merciful to all who believe.



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Vân nói tóm tắt những ǵ được nói ở trên ...

- Chúa dựng nên ĐỊA NGỤC ... cho Satan, những thiên sứ gian ácnhững con người gian ác ... bị trừng phạt trong đó cho những tội lỗi mà họ đả làm

- V́ Chúa là Đấng "đúng đắn & toàn thiện" ... những cái ǵ chưa đạt tới mức toàn thiện th́ đều bị coi như là tội lỗi ... kết quả  :think: ... tất cả mọi người  trong chúng ta đều phạm tội trước mặt Chúa, v́ không một ai trong chúng ta đạt tới mức toàn thiện cả ... tất cả chúng ta đều xứng đáng bị trừng phạt "đời đời" trong địa ngục  :huhu:


- Nếu Chúa không trừng phạt chúng ta, không ném chúng ta vào địa ngục đời đời ... th́ Chúa không phải là Đấng "công b́nh - just"

- Nhưng Chúa cũng là Đấng "thương xót" .. nên Ngài soạn ra Chương tŕnh cứu rỗi ... 1. bao nhiêu tội lỗi của chúng ta sẽ chất lên Chúa Jesus trên thập tự giá .... 2. coi như là Ngài đền tội cho chúng ta rồi .. 3. để hễ ai tin vào Ngài th́ sẽ được cứu



Chương tŕnh cứu rổi này , thích ứng với bản chất của Chúa

- đúng đắn, toàn thiện  .....  (1)

- công b́nh - just  ....  (2)

- thương xót .....  (3)






Problem của chúng ta là ǵ ???

- chúng ta chỉ nh́n 1 bản chất của Chúa , rồi chúng ta cho "Chúa là như vậy" ... hoàn toàn sai

- chúng ta chỉ nh́n "Chúa yêu thương, thương xót" .. nhưng chúng ta nhắm mắt lại, không chịu nh́n "Chúa đúng đắn, toàn thiên, công b́nh, just" ... th́ chúng ta hoàn toàn sai

- ngay cả con người , 1 người c̣n có nhiều bản chất trong đó ... chúng ta nh́n 1 người , phải nh́n trọn vẹn những bản chất của họ, để biết về họ .. chứ không thể nào chúng ta chỉ nh́n 1 bản chất, rồi cho rằng họ như vậy

- Chúa có nhiều bản chất ... ḿnh phải t́m hiểu hết những bản chất của Chúa để biết về Chúa như thế nào .. chứ chúng ta không thể chỉ nh́n vào 1 bản chất , rồi cho rằng Chúa như vậy .. th́ cũng giống như người rờ "cái ṿi con voi", nói "con voi giống như con rắn" ... đây là 1 suy nghĩ hoàn toàn sai lầm
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Re: The Beat +
« Reply #125 on: July 25, 2020, 05:07:29 pm »
5 Crown Rewards in Heaven



1. The Victor's Crown (1 Cô rinh tô 9:25-27) ... dành cho những người biết tự discipline bản thân ḿnh - làm theo lời Chúa dạy  :tulip:

25 Hết thảy những người đua tranh, tự ḿnh chịu lấy mọi sự kiêng kỵ, họ chịu vậy để được măo triều thiên hay hư nát. Nhưng chúng ta chịu vậy để được măo triều thiên không hay hư nát.
26 Vậy th́, tôi chạy, chẳng phải là chạy bá vơ; tôi đánh, chẳng phải là đánh gió;
27 song tôi đăi thân thể ḿnh cách nghiêm khắc, bắt nó phải phục, e rằng sau khi tôi đă giảng dạy kẻ khác, mà chính ḿnh phải bị bỏ chăng.





2. The Crown of Rejoicing  (1 Tê sa lô ni ca 2:19) ... dành cho các nhà truyền giáo  :tulip:

16 ngăn trở chúng tôi giảng dạy dân ngoại cho được cứu, lại hằng đầy dẫy cái lượng tội lỗi ḿnh. Nhưng cơn thịnh nộ của Đức Chúa Trời sau hết đă đến trên họ.

19 V́ sự trông cậy, vui mừng và măo triều thiên vinh hiển của chúng tôi là ǵ, há chằng phải là anh em cũng được đứng trước mặt Đức Chúa Jêsus chúng ta trong khi Ngài đến sao?





3. The Crown of Righteousness (2 Ti mô thê 4:8 ) ... dành cho các Mục sư  :tulip:

2 hăy giảng đạo, cố khuyên, bất luận gặp thời hay không gặp thời, hăy đem ḷng rất nhịn nhục mà bẻ trách, nài khuyên, sửa trị, cứ dạy dỗ chẳng thôi.
3 V́ sẽ có một thời kia, người ta không chịu nghe đạo lành; những v́ họ ham nghe những lời êm tai, theo tư dục mà nhóm họp các giáo sư xung quanh ḿnh,
4 bịt tai không nghe lẽ thật, mà xây hướng về chuyện huyễn.
5 Nhưng con, phải có tiết độ trong mọi sự, hăy chịu cực khổ, làm việc của người giảng Tin Lành, mọi phận sự về chức vụ con phải làm cho đầy đủ.
6 Về phần ta, ta đang bị đổ ra làm lễ quán, kỳ qua đời của ta gần rồi.
7 Ta đă đánh trận tốt lành, đă xong sự chạy, đă giữ được đức tin.
8 Hiện nay măo triều thiên của sự công b́nh đă để dành cho ta; Chúa là quan án công b́nh, sẽ ban măo ấy cho ta trong ngày đó, không những cho ta mà thôi, những cũng cho mọi kẻ yêu mến sự hiện đến của Ngài.




4. The Crown of Life (Gia cơ 1:12 ... Khải huyền 2:10) ... dành cho những người trung tín, vươt qua sự cám dỗ/ thữ thách/ đau khổ/ hoạn nạn  :tulip:

12 Phước cho người bị cám dỗ; v́ lúc đă chịu nổi sự thử thách rồi, th́ sẽ lănh măo triều thiên của sự sống mà Đức Chúa Trời đă hứa cho kẻ kính mến Ngài.

10 Ngươi chớ ngại điều ḿnh sẽ chịu khổ. Nầy, ma quỉ sẽ quăng nhiều kẻ trong các ngươi vào ngục, hầu cho các ngươi bị thử thách; các ngươi sẽ bị hoạn nạn trong mười ngày. Khá giữ trung tín cho đến chết, rồi ta sẽ ban cho ngươi mũ triều thiên của sự sống.




5. The Crown of Glory (1 Phi e rơ 5:4) ... dành cho các bậc trưỡng lảo chăn bầy chiên của Chúa  :tulip:

1 Tôi gởi lời khuyên nhủ nầy cho các bậc trưởng lăo trong anh em, tôi đây cũng là trưởng lăo như họ, là người chứng kiến sự đau đớn của Đấng Christ, và cũng có phần về sự vinh hiển sẽ hiện ra:
2 hăy chăn bầy của Đức Chúa Trời đă giao phó cho anh em; làm việc đó chẳng phải bởi ép t́nh, bèn là bởi vui ḷng, chẳng phải v́ lợi dơ bẩn, bèn là hết ḷng mà làm,
3 chẳng phải quản trị phần trách nhậm chia cho anh em, song để làm gương tốt cho cả bầy.
4 Khi Đấng làm đầu các kẻ chăn chiên hiện ra, anh em sẽ được măo triều thiên vinh hiển, chẳng hề tàn héo.


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Re: The Beat +
« Reply #126 on: July 25, 2020, 05:38:02 pm »
Does Love Cover a Multitude of Sins?


Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins" 1 Peter 4:8

A woman struggling in an emotionally destructive marriage once asked me, “Doesn’t love cover a multitude of sins?” 1 Peter 4:8 . She continued, “Who am I to hold my husband’s sin or blindness against him? The Bible teaches us, ‘It is good for us to overlook an offense’ (Proverbs 19:11). Shouldn’t I just keep quiet and minister to him, and pray that he will see God’s love in me?”

Many counselors working with those in destructive marriages struggle with this same question. Jesus makes it clear. We are not to judge or condemn anyone (Matthew 7:1–2). God instructs all his followers to forbear with and forgive one another. We know we all fail one another (James 3:2), and we know that Jesus tells a person to take the log out of their own eye before attempting to deal with the speck in someone else’s eye (Matthew 7:3–5). To bring up each and every offense in any relationship would become tiresome indeed.




Love Covers a Multitude of Sins, But Not All

Love does cover a multitude of sins, but not all sins. Paul tells believers that we are to distance ourselves from those who claim to be believers yet live immoral and destructive lives (1 Corinthians 5:11). He instructs us to warn those who are lazy (1 Thessalonians 5:14), and that we ought not to participate in unfruitful deeds of darkness (Ephesians 5:11). Paul also encourages believers to restore someone who is caught in a trespass (Galatians 6:1), and James exhorts us to bring a brother back who has wandered from the truth (James 5:19). When someone deeply offends us, Jesus says we’re to go talk with them so that our relationship can be repaired (Matthew 18:15–17).

Yes, we ought to forgive and forbear, overlooking minor offenses, hoping others will do the same for us. And we are to speak up when someone’s sin is hurting them, hurting others, or hurting us.



Sins that Love Does Not Cover

Serious and repetitive sin is lethal to any relationship. We would not be loving the destructive person if we kept quiet and colluded with his self-deception or enabled his sin to flourish without any attempt to speak truth into his life (Ephesians 4:15). Yes, we are called to be imitators of Christ and live a life of love; however, let’s be careful that as Christian counselors we do not put a heavy burden on someone to do something that God himself does not do. God is gracious to the saint and unrepentant sinner alike, but he does not have a close relationship with both. He says our sins separate us from him (Isaiah 59:2; Jeremiah 5:25).

When someone repeatedly and seriously sins against us and is not willing to look at what he’s done and is not willing to change, it is not possible to have a warm or close relationship. We’ve, at times, misrepresented unconditional love to mean unconditional relationship. Jesus’ conversations with the Pharisee’s are examples of him challenging their self-deception and pride so they would repent and experience true fellowship with him (Matthew 23). He loved them, but they did not enjoy a loving or safe relationship. Jesus never pretended otherwise. Let’s not encourage our counsel's to pretend and placate. Jesus never did.

A marriage or relationship that has no boundaries or conditions is not psychologically healthy nor is it spiritually sound. It enables a repeatedly destructive spouse to continue to believe the lie that the rules of life don’t apply to him, and if he does something hurtful or sinful, he or she shouldn’t have to suffer the relational fallout. That kind of thinking is not biblical, or healthy, or true. It harms not only their marriage; it harms everyone involved.

For the welfare of the destructive person and his or her marriage, there are times we must take a strong stand. To act neutrally in the matter only enables the person’s self-deception to grow unchallenged. Scripture warns, “He who conceals his sins does not prosper” (Proverbs 28:13).





Sin Covers Us from God

The destructive person desperately needs to see God’s love, but he or she also desperately needs to see himself more truthfully so that he can wake up and ask God to help him make necessary changes. It’s true that we are all broken and in desperate need of God’s healing grace. The problem for the destructive person is that he or she has been unwilling to acknowledge his part of the destruction. She’s been unwilling to confess or take responsibility or get the help she needs to change her destructive ways. Instead, she’s minimized, denied, lied, excused, rationalized, or blamed others.

Confronting someone and/or implementing tough consequences should never be done to scold, shame, condemn or punish. As biblical counselors, we have one purpose—to jolt someone awake with the strong medicine of God’s truth or the reality of tough consequences. We hope that by doing so, they will come to their senses, turn to God, and stop their destructive behaviors for the glory of God, their own welfare, and the restoration of their marriage.



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theo Vân nghĩ .. đoạn trên nói ǵ?

- trong relationship giữa "người & người" ... :heart: v́ t́nh yêu thương, ḿnh có thể bỏ qua những lỗi lầm nhỏ nhặt cho nhau, đừng có chuyện bé xé ra to ..  ḿnh bỏ qua cho người , và hy vọng người cũng bỏ qua cho ḿnh 

- nhưng nếu có ai làm điều ǵ ḿnh cảm thấy "đau đớn cho ḿnh - hay đau đớn cho người khác" ... th́ ḿnh "phải nói lên đế sữa chữa những sai lầm trong relationship"

 

- những lỗi mà ḿnh cần phải nói rỏ ra, tỉ dụ như ..

i. khi họ có 1 đời sống "immoral hay destructive"

ii. khi họ có 1 đời sống "lười biếng"

iii. khi họ có những "hành động đen tối"

iv. dùng lời nhỏ nhẹ nói chuyện khi họ "vô t́nh phạm 1 tội ǵ đó"

v. khi họ "đi xa sự thật"

vi. những lỗi serious, được lập đi lập lại nhiều lần

vii. NGAY CẢ CHÍNH CHUÁ CŨNG NÓI, TỘI LỖI LÀM NGĂN CÁCH GIỮA CHUÁ VÀ M̀NH ... nên không có lư ǵ, ḿnh bắt 1 người nào đó phải gần gũi với người cố t́nh phạm tội  :nm:  .. Ê sai 59:2







- trong relationship giữa "Chúa & the destructive person" ...  :heart: ... dĩ nhiên họ cũng cần t́nh yêu thương của Chúa ... nhưng việc đúng họ cần phải làm là .... nh́n lại chính ḿnh, biết ḿnh có problem ǵ, xin Chúa giúp cho ḿnh thay đổi ...

- chứ không làm việc sai như ... tự dối ḷng, không cho rằng ḿnh cần thay đổi, không nhận lănh trách nhiệm cho việc ḿnh làm, mà đổ thừa tại người này người kia chứ không bao giờ nhận là lỗi tại ḿnh

- khi phải đối diện với the destructive person, ḿnh không làm ǵ với mục đích "hạ nhục" họ .. nhưng ḿnh cứng rắn cho họ nh́n thấy sự thật họ cần phải thay đổi ... hay họ sẽ nhận lănh 1 hậu quả thất bại .. có vậy , th́ họ mới chịu thức tĩnh  :cool3:


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« Reply #127 on: July 26, 2020, 12:09:48 pm »

Question: "Is God sovereign or do we have a free will?"


Answer: When we talk about free will, we are usually concerned with the matter of salvation. Few are interested in whether we have the free will to choose salad or steak for our dinner tonight. Rather, we are troubled over who exactly is in control of our eternal destiny.


Any discussion of man’s free will must begin with an understanding of his nature because man’s will is bound by that nature. A prisoner has the freedom to pace up and down in his cell, but he is constrained by the walls of that cell and can go no farther, no matter how much his will might desire it. So it is with man. Because of sin, man is imprisoned within a cell of corruption and wickedness which permeates to the very core of our being. Every part of man is in bondage to sin – our bodies, our minds, and our wills. Jeremiah 17:9 tells us the state of man’s heart: it is “deceitful and desperately wicked.” In our natural, unregenerate state, we are carnally minded, not spiritually minded. “For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the Law of God, neither indeed can it be” (Romans 8:6-7). These verses tell us that before we are saved, we are at enmity (war) with God, we do not submit to God and His law, neither can we. The Bible is clear that, in his natural state, man is incapable of choosing that which is good and holy. In other words, he does not have the “free will” to choose God because his will is not free. It is constrained by his nature, just as the prisoner is constrained by his cell.


How then can anyone be saved? Ephesians 2:1 describes the process. We who are “dead in our trespasses and sins” have been “made alive” through Christ. A dead man cannot make himself alive because he lacks the necessary power to do so. Lazarus lay in his tomb four days unable to do a thing to resurrect himself. Christ came along and commanded him to come to life (John 11). So it is with us. We are spiritually dead, unable to rise. But “while we were yet sinners Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8). He calls us out of our spiritual graves and gives us a completely new nature, one undefiled by sin as the old nature was (2 Corinthians 5:17). God saw the desperate and helpless state of our souls, and in His great love and mercy, He sovereignly chose to send His Son to the cross to redeem us. By His grace we are saved through the gift of faith which He gives us so that we can believe in Jesus. His grace is a free gift, our faith is a free gift, and our salvation is a free gift given to those whom God has chosen “before the foundation of the world” (Ephesians 1:4). Why did He choose to do it this way? Because it was “according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace” (Ephesians 1:5-6). It’s important to understand that the plan of salvation is designed to glorify God, not man. Our response is to praise Him for the “glory of His grace.” If we chose our own salvation, who would get the glory? We would, and God has made it clear that He will not give the glory due to Him to anyone else (Isaiah 48:11).


The question naturally arises, how do we know who has been saved “from the foundation of the world”? We don’t. That is why we take the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ to the ends of the earth, telling all to repent and receive God’s gift of grace. Second Corinthians 5:20 tells us we are to be pleading with others to be reconciled to God before it is too late. We cannot know whom God will choose to release from their prison cells of sin. We leave that choice to Him and present the gospel to all. The ones who come to Jesus He “will in no way cast out” (John 6:37).



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Vân đang suy nghĩ nhiều về .. God's sovereignty vs. Freewill .. t́nh tiết như thế nào .. theo Vân thấy so far th́ nó như thế này.

1. nói về Salvation, Chương tŕnh cứu rỗi .. th́ con người hoàn toàn có ZERO freewill .. Chúa chọn anh A chị B cô C vào làm con cái Ngài .. chứ không phải họ chọn Chúa

- tĩ dụ điển h́nh là Paul .. ban đầu ông t́m mọi cách để giết hội thánh của Chúa tới nỗi các sứ đồ không dám tin tưởng ông .. th́ không thể nào nói ông chọn Chúa .. mà phải nói là Chúa đă chọn ông

- Chúa không bị lost hay thất lạc đâu cả .. mà chính ḿnh bị lost thất lạc .. th́ không thể  nào nói người thất lạc như ḿnh t́m kiếm ra Chúa .. mà phải nói ngược lại Chúa t́m kiếm ra được người thất lạc như ḿnh

- hay nói cho dễ hiểu, bản chất con người ḿnh đầy tội lỗi, ḿnh cứ như 1 thằng mù .. không có khả năng biết cái nào tốt cái nào xấu cho ḿnh chọn .. nhưng chính Chúa đă chọn ḿnh, kéo ḿnh ra khỏi bóng tối để làm con cái Ngài trong sự sáng

- như vậy có nghĩa là sao  :think: ḿnh không có 1 credit ǵ cả để ḿnh "nổ, boast" .. Mọi credits thuộc về Chúa .. Dựng nên chương tŕnh cứu rỗi cũng thuộc về Chúa, thực hiện chương tŕnh cứu rỗi cũng thuộc về Chúa, chọn ḿnh nhận chương tŕnh cứu rỗi cũng thuộc về Chúa .. MỌI VINH HIỄN CREDITS ĐỀU THUỘC VỀ CHÚA, KHÔNG CÓ CÁI G̀ ĐỂ M̀NH VỖ NGỰC NÓI "TUI LÀM ĐÓ À NHA"

- vậy ḿnh không biết ai được Chúa chọn, ai không được Chúa chọn .. that's His business, not ours ...business của ḿnh là nói về Chúa cho mọi người biết .. hễ ai được Chúa chọn th́ họ sẽ được mở mắt nhận thông điệp, c̣n ai không được Chúa chọn th́ họ sẽ không được mở mắt và không thể nào hiểu được ḿnh nói cái ǵ cả


cái đó là nói về Salvation, con người có ZERO% freewill .. nhưng về những chuyện daily khác, con người có thể có 5% freewill .. 95% là nằm trong sự tể trị của Chúa, His sovereignty


2. Những chuyện daily khác trong đời sống của ḿnh .. Tỉ dụ ..

i. ḿnh muốn chiều nay ḿnh ăn hamburger .. chances là chiều nay minh thiệt sự ăn hamburger .. nó là business giữa ḿnh và ḿnh, th́ ḿnh có cao % freewill hơn


ii. nhưng bây giờ ḿnh tĩ dụ chuyện business giữa ḿnh và người khác, th́ cái % freewill này bị giảm xuống c̣n 5%, v́ gần như 95% nằm trong quyền tể trị của Chúa 

- ḿnh có freewill t́m 1 cái job nào đó .. người interview ḿnh cũng có cái freewill nhận ḿnh hay không .. à há 95% kết quả là nằm trong sự tễ trị của Chúa

- ḿnh có freewill yêu 1 người nào đó .. người kia cũng có cái freewill yêu lại ḿnh hay không .. à há 95% kết quả cũng nằm trong sự tể trị của Chúa

- ḿnh có freewill book vé máy bay ✈ đi vacation ... nhưng giờ phút cuối ḿnh đi được hay có chuyện ǵ đó xảy ra đ́nh trệ chuyến đi của ḿnh .. à há 95% kết quả cũng nằm trong sự tể trị của Chúa

- ḿnh có cái freewill dự tính sẽ làm cái này làm cái kia trong 1 tháng, nhưng ḿnh có biết được ngày mai chuyện ǵ xảy ra cho ḿnh không.. 95% nằm trong quyền tể trị của Chúa


- à .. ḿnh có freewill chọn vâng lời hay chống lại Chúa .. nhưng hậu quả sau đó là nằm trong quyền tể trị của Chúa, blessed hay cursed là tùy theo cái freewill của ḿnh  :vt:


M̀NH THẤY .. M̀NH CÓ FREEWILL DỰ TÍNH .. NHƯNG KHÔNG PHẢI DỰ TÍNH NÀO CŨNG NHƯ Ư M̀NH MUỐN .. MÀ 95% SỰ VIỆC XẢY RA THẾ NÀO LÀ NẰM TRONG SỰ TỂ TRỊ CỦA CHÚA

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